This week Haterade Hoops brings you our Top 5 NBA Players with guest writer Christian Bradley. Having another opinion really helped this story. Every time one of us made an argument for one player the other would counter and we’d end up going back and forth. Sometimes we budged. Other times we just agreed to disagree and understood the other writers point of view.

Haterade Hoops: I got Dwayne Wade #1 hands down and it ain’t even close—He’s got the ring, the insane dunks,the tremendous help D, the 1 on 1 ability and he shows up when it matters most. Yes, he did miss a year but he has had 3 seasons of 77 games played and after the Heat signed LBJ, Wade was clearly the true Batman of the two.

Christian Bradley: I had to go with the unpopular pick and say Lebron. He is in my opinion the most well-rounded player in the game, and, WHEN HE IS at the top of his game, he’s the toughest to guard in the league because of his combo of strength and athleticism.

Haterade Hoops: I agree with you in the LBJ is probably one of the toughest players to guard
in the league. I would like to see him post up more with his size and
athleticism. My biggest issue with LBJ is that he never shows up when it
matters most. He is Robin disguised as Batman. Wade has the ring and the
clutch gene you need to win.

Christian Bradley: Dwayne Wade– In terms of putting Wade at 2, if I can have any one player in the game for one single season, I have to take Lebron over Wade. Wade has the clutch
playoff performances, but I just can’t put shooting guard who is a historically
bad three-point shooter over a player like Lebron who does it all. Straight up looking at
the numbers, I can’t find another player in the league that adds more to a team
than Lebron.

Christian Bradley: I got Kobe at 3 but I’m curious about your thoughts on Durant and Rose, the two best young players in the NBA. Why Durant ahead of Kobe for you? I had Durant at #4 and Rose at #5

Haterade Hoops– #3 Kevin Durant . He is the most prolific scorer on the list and is a great leader. Rick Barnes is said to have been asked about his basketball team before KD arrived and he said he had the best player in all of college. The reporter asked don’t you mean freshman,
he responded no. The best player in college. KD had even played a game yet.He is getting better at
defense and led his team to the WCF last year. He is only 23 years old and has
yet to hit his prime. His size of 6’10 and the ability to play 2-4 is impressive. He hits clutch shots and will only get better.

Christian Bradley: Can’t argue with any of that, his ability to get to the free throw at what almost seem like will sometimes is just so impressive. My one knock on Durant would have to be that is three-point shooting has curiously gotten worse since he shot 42% from behind the arc in
08-09. He is still making outside shots in the high-30′s%, but I’m not sure he
is AS feared as he could be.

Haterade Hoops: Do you think that Durant’s drop in 3 point field goal percentage can be attributed to defenses learning how to defend him better?

Christian Bradley: I think if you look at our top 10, and have to pick one guy who has the potential
to be the best NBA player, it is Durant. The knock on him as a shooter is one
of the only knocks to choose from. Defenses focusing more on closing out on him
earlier I’m certain has a lot to do with it. But what I’m saying is with a continually improved outside shot, Durant has the talent to go down as one of the top players in the history of the game.

Christian Bradley : I had to put Rose in the top five when I did this, by far the best point guard in the game and he’s still just short of his 24th birthday. Scary.

Haterade Hoops: I think with the offensive talent or lack there of Rose has around him, he is relied on too heavily. Rose is the only that can carry the offense and it showed in the playoffs last year. Rose’s determination to get better ever year is only matched by the one and only Kobe. They said he needed to improve his jump shot, he did. Then they said he needed to improve his 3 point shooting, he did. Rose can play defense, rebound and isn’t afraid of the moment. I love the way this guy plays so fearless.

Christian Bradley: Absolutely, going from 22% from behind the arc his rookie year to 33% behind the arc last year is a clear sign of the work Rose puts in. He’s in unbelievable shape. I love
watching him in the 4th quarter of games because he just doesn’t tire.

Haterade Hoops: How about winning the MVP at 23 and terrorizing the league and being the only scoring threat on his team.

Christian Bradley :Honestly if you had put Rose at #1 or #2 I’m not sure how I would have argued. That Bulls team is one decent shooting guard away from a championship-Boozer has to stay healthy though. I think in the coming years Durant, Rose, and Griffin are probably just going to take turns winning the MVP award.

Haterade Hoops:  Yeah well now that we have discussed it. I gotta put Rose 4. Kobe just got bumped.

Christian Bradley: A very agreeable move,the more we talk about Rose and Durant the more I want to put them at #3 and #4, respectively and bump Kobe to 5. Would you still keep Howard at #4?

Haterade Hoops: No. Howard or Kobe? Howard is younger has the defense but his offensive game has lacked for so long. His defense might sway me a little, but I think Kobe is till top 5

Christian Bradley: Agreed, I don’t think there is a more imposing post presence in the league than Howard, but I can’t possibly put him ahead of Kobe. Defensively, I love Howard’s game, but he has
no ability to score outside of 6-7 feet from the rim

Haterade Hoops: I think Howard needs to spend more time with the Dream. He is probably the most imposing post player since Shaq. But he lacks the domination that Shaq had

Christian Bradley: I’m glad you brought up Shaq because I feel like Howard’s high
school comparisons to Shaq are similar to Lebron’s high school comparisons to
Jordan. Whether the comparisons were fair is up for debate, but I think it’s
safe to say neither will live up to those monumental comparisons.

Haterade Hoops: Also, Howard’s his free throw shooting
is atrocious. He is a liability at the end of a game.

Haterade Hoops: So are we agreeing Kobe is still top 5?

Christian Bradley:Undoubtedly Kobe is top 5

Haterade Hoops: I agree, Kobe is still top 5. If I had to choose one player for one game, one shot. I want Kobe. Kobe’s ability to take over a game whether it be rebounding, defense or scoring. I think after his surgeries this year overseas, you will see the Kobe of 09 hoisting another Finals MVP. Kobe may never be Jordan but he’s the closest thing since.

Christian Bradley: Kobe is the closest thing we’re ever going to see to Jordan. Besides MJ, I’ve never seen a player play ith more intensity than Kobe, bar none.

Check back in next week as we discuss the bottom half of the top 10 NBA players.

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I know I haven’t posted anything in a while and for that I apologize. We here at Haterade Hoops have decided to write a new section dubbed ”Haterade flavor of the Week. Enjoy!

Seriously, what is going on in the NBA that most Americans don’t already know? I think everyday my dad makes small talk about the lockout saying something like “So looks like we’re not going to have season, huh?” I want to slap him and ask him where he got that ever so brilliant information but I usually respond with something like “yeah probably not” in a tired voice. Just really tired of talking about it to be honest with you. Both sides are accusing each other of being greedy and at this point I have given up all hope of any kind of NBA season. So instead of dragging on about the NBA like the lockout continues to do so, I’m looking forward to the college basketball season. This college basketball season will be especially exciting for my two boys and I. We are going to watch WKU in Nov. and then I get to take them to see FAU freshman sensation Omari Grier whom I used to coach a couple years back in AAU ball.

Across the country college basketball fans will show up in droves to watch games and the bars will be filled with patrons cheering on their favorite teams, coloring their faces and wearing their favorite shirt with the mascot on it. And this year there will be more fans than ever as all the NBA fans that live in tiny college towns will pack the stadiums or local watering holes just to fill the void left by the NBA and cheer on their local college team. College basketball will once again be on top as the millionaires and billionaires of this game continue to bicker well into December.

I’ve been searching for something to fill the void for months and finally decided to attend a Vanderbilt football game last night and I don’t even like football for the most part. I have to admit I’m hooked, now I just wanna make it to the Swamp. I can’t imagine what it would be like to take my boys to a Gators game with 100K screaming fans… Talk about exciting!

The point is that with NBA continuing this lockout for who knows how long, we have to find something else to do instead of watching re runs of the 1993 playoffs. Trust me there are better things out there than NBA basketball and college ball is one of them not to mention anything can happen. That’s why March madness is a billion dollar business. So get out there and support your local college team or high school team and give the NBA the middle finger until we get a sincere apology from dictator Stern and the owners.

 

 

 

It’s been three months since the NBA lockout started and training camps still haven’t been cancelled. That’s good sign… last time the NBA had a lockout the first preseason games were cancelled in early September and we are way past that point now. Reports out of last weeks meeting between the NBA and NBPA are that the players have made some financial concessions such as willing to come down 4-5% of the Basketball Related Income which last season the players got $2.17 billion from. The majority have always felt that if the two sides could agree on money then most of everything else would be easy as pie. It seems the only issue holding the season hostage now is the proposal of a hard cap vs. the soft cap the  NBA has had for years. Players often negotiate guaranteed contracts and can plan better for their own financial future by doing so in a soft cap system. The hard cap system owners are proposing is much like the one in the NFL. Where guaranteed contracts are much harder to come by and players can be cut at anytime by a GM or owner making it very risky to be a professional athlete. The NBA has been said to have some of the best contracts in professional sports for a long time and the guaranteed contracts is a huge reason why. That’s not to say that all NBA contracts are guaranteed. The owners sometimes do offer non guaranteed contracts but seldom do players sign them. The owners also feel that a league with more parity would in essence make the games closer thus bringing in more revenue as the TV ratings would increase. However that thinking is flawed as it has been proven time and time again that teams win because of wise owners and Gm’s… When was the last time you saw the Clippers win anything? The Clippers have always had one of the worst owners in sports and their GM’s haven’t fared much better.

So where does this leave us? For the most part players live paycheck to paycheck like most of us do. The checks for the players will stop coming on November 15th so the players have an urgency to get things done now. The owners are well aware of the product they put on the floor night in and night out and don’t want to lose that. Both sides don’t want to sign a bad deal that will haunt either for years to come. The NBA and NBPA have gone from a couple looking themselves in the mirror debating divorce… to a couple knowing they need each other to survive and now they are searching for a compromise that will allow them to stay married and happy for years to come.

This NBA lockout is getting to me… With no good news in sight and D Fish (President of NBPA) telling reporters the two sides aren’t getting any closer I’m stressed and I need the NBA… The withdrawals are starting to become too severe to handle on my own. I have tried other activities while awaiting this long drawn out process of millionaires and billionaires arguing over who’s getting the better end of the deal. So now that we are less than a month away from the what is supposed to be the start of training camps? What is the NBA and NBPA going to do? A better question maybe what are the two sides willing to compromise to get a deal done. The NBA owners feel like they got worked over on the last CBA. The players if they were to give in would be losing everything that players of generations before them fought so hard for. There has to be answer somewhere in there.

If the two sides aren’t going to make a deal then at least please stop trying to sell us on this BS of “the NBPA had such a great deal for so long”… Um, correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t all the owners agree to the last CBA and then spend ridiculous amounts of money to sign mediocre free agents to long term contracts? Yep… And now those same owners are complaining to the point they are willing to go a full year without a season? Yep…  I don’t understand. How in the world do the owners think they can make it without the NBA players? Have you ever been to a D League game? Exactly my point. Could you imagine D League players showing up for a whole season in Madison Square Gardens? Not even Spike Lee would show up. Well, I  don’t think we need to worry about that too much.

The two sides will kiss and make up before the end of the year. I don’t have any proof of this, don’t know anyone in the discussions and I don’t have a “source close to the situation.” What I do have is business sense and it makes a lot more sense to make money even if I have to give a little then to be hard nosed and lose everything I have worked so hard for.

 

The NFL recently put a hold on the start of Terrelle Pryor’s professional career. Suspending him for the first five games of the upcoming season.  The suspension is being carried over from Pryor’s playing days at Ohio State.  Last December Pryor was ruled ineligible for the first five games of the 2011-2012 season by the NCAA, for receiving improper benefits and selling Ohio State memorabilia. One item of note Pryor sold was a “gold pants” charm (a piece of jewelery given to Ohio State players that have been victorious over Big Ten arch rival University of Michigan).  Instead of returning for his final year of eligibility and serving out his five game suspension. Pryor declared himself eligible for this years NFL supplemental draft. On August 18th, four days before the supplemental draft the NFL informed teams of their intentions to suspend Pryor by releasing a statement saying “Pryor made decisions that undermine the integrity of the eligibility rules for the NFL draft.” League spokesman, Greg Aiello, posted on his twitter feed,  you can’t break the rules, as Pryor did, “and get a free pass into the NFL.”

Wait… Say that again. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell signed off on suspending a player for actions as a college athlete? WOW! Where can I send my thank you note? Anyone got the address? Seriously! The list of suspensions and players who have turned pro to avoid the consequences of their actions is longer than a giraffe’s neck and it’s growing rapidly. This is American justice at it’s finest. Finally someone other than Pete Bell (Nick Nolte’s character in “Blue Chips” the movie) has agreed that players need to be held to the same set of rules as everyone else. When a player is found guilty of a such a crime the penalty for the school and it’s remaining players can be harsh. Most of the time the punishment handed down by the NCAA includes loss of scholarships and could also include losing post season eligibility status for years. Allow me to break it down for you; player X receives something of monetary value and the institution and it’s athletes suffer the consequences while the guilty turn pro and never feel an ounce of pain? How does that make any sense? To me, Goodell’s decision to suspend Pryor is a thing of beauty. It reinforces what most of us were taught as young children… if you break a rule then you should be held accountable for your actions. Pryor’s decision to accept the penalty for his actions suggests that he was raised this way too. Pryor’s agent Drew Rosenhaus spoke about the suspension telling the Associated Press. “We accept that voluntarily.” “It’s a small price to pay for him to have a chance to pursue his dream of playing in the NFL”.

The suspension brings a couple of things to light. By suspending Pryor the NFL ”hopes it will dissuade future college players who run afoul of the NCAA from trying to use the NFL as a means of escaping punishment” and that The NFL isn’t going to condone this type of behavior by college athletes any longer.  Instead of consulting NCAA president Mark Emmert before making the decision according to NFL.com, Bob Williams, a spokesman for the NCAA said the commissioner “called Mark to inform him of his intent. Nothing more.”  Roger Goodell let everyone know who runs Football. POINT. BLANK. PERIOD. (T.I. voice)

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The NBA recently released their schedule for the 2011-2012 season with the first games scheduled to be played October 9th. By releasing a full season schedule including preseason games, the powers of the NBA suggest to us that there will be a season. The Players have an urgency to get a deal done quickly according to Kevin Love who after a recent NBA players regional meeting  told ESPN.com “There is a sense of urgency on the players’ side. But we need to have a plan and go balls to the wall for us to get a great deal.”  Will the two sides be able to come to a compromise before the start of the season or will games be missed? Will players still head overseas, if the lockout continues into the season? Deron Williams is currently the lone superstar with a contract to play overseas during the lockout. The talks between Kobe Bryant and Turkish club Besiktas have stalled and the Chinese Basketball Association recently shutdown rumors of players defecting to their mainland during the lockout. Releasing a statement saying the CBA will not be making offers to NBA players with guaranteed contracts and that free agents who ink a deal with a Chinese ball club must sign for the entire year giving them no recourse to return home if a deal is reached. The CBA isn’t taking any chances with their teams getting robbed of players in the middle of their season.  Europe is still a viable option for some but those jobs are few and far between as many teams have a restriction on the amount of foreign players allowed on a squad… Not to mention the greater risk of injuries and the lack of security as told in detail by players who have been there before, suggesting it’s not as grand as it appears on paper. The NBPA needs to make a move and at this point the players options for playing are becoming scarce.

This combination of recent events has the NBPA twisted and the NBA appears to have put the players union in check. How are the players going to react? Playing hardball certainly isn’t helping their cause. The players might be rich but the owners are wealthy. Anytime you’re at the $2.00 tables and the guy next to you starts putting down C- Notes, it might be a good time to step away and come up with a new strategy. Amid reports NBPA Executive Director Billy Hunter  concerned with the looming lockout two years ago, warned players to save their cash flow. Apparently not everyone was listening.  After clearing $8 million over the last two years Delonte West claims to be broke as he tweeted the other day, ”It’s official.. Pride 2 the side.. just filled out a application at Home Depot.. Lockout aint a game.” The owners aren’t backing down and there are only a few scenarios left on how this lockout could play out.

A)  Worst Scenario- the players and owners continue to play hardball and the season is lost when stubbornness turns to an all time high as both sides hold tight to their stances. If the basketball season is completely lost, precedence suggests it could take years for the NBA to recover. This exact scenario happened to the National Hockey League (NHL) back in 2004 and 7 years later they are still having a hard time getting fans back.

B) OK Scenario- The NBPA and NBA learn how to communicate a 1/4 of the way through the season and reconcile giving us a partial season. Hey something is better than nothing and currently nothing has us all empty inside.

C) Best Scenario- The two sides stop bickering and realize without each other they don’t produce a world class product and need each other. Agreeing to a sensible deal for both sides giving us a full season better than last years.

The cost of the medicine to prevent withdrawls will be nothing compared to the bill I will be receiving from my therapist if option A happens. It might take a few sessions for me to deal with option B but for my own sanity and those around me… I’m holding on for option C. Hoping that we will soon get to hear the players shoes screeching on the hardwood floors of an NBA court as we watch them put on their best performances and they suck us all back in. After all… “It’s the NBA, where amazing happens.”

 

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When Dime Mag’s very own Aron Phillips hit me up a few years back to write a “Pass the Mic” piece for Dime, I was ecstatic.  Aron has done a superb job editing the pieces I have sent into Dime and highschoolhoops.com. Click on the links below and enjoy.

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The NBA and NBPA are still struggling to reconcile their marriage. The break up continues to be a bad sign for us fans as rumors of more players playing overseas (if the lockout extends into the season) are starting to spread like the Red Sea. This is just ridiculous, granted I have no financial stake in this episode of how the NBA turns. So it really doesn’t matter to me who wins in this war of legal words and documents that I can’t spell, pronunciate or understand. I just want my NBA! The only news coming from any reliable sources are street ball, summer leagues and of course the dreaded lockout.

Last summer at this time, the NBA had us salivating. Debating what kind of killer squad the Miami Heat were gonna put on the floor after signing Dwyane Wade, Lebron James and Chris Bosh; three of the biggest stars in what many considered to be the best free agent class ever. You know you were out there. Whether you like LBJ or not, he was the hot topic between you and all your boys.  Now this summer all we have to talk about is what overseas team is going to get our biggest stars and street ball.  Once again I find myself feigning for some real NBA action. Something besides Ron Artest and his latest crazy tweet on twitter.  I honestly don’t care if Artest wants to get into a ring and do some boxing or if Kevin Love wants to attend random barbeque’s. I want my NBA and I want it now. I’m tired of waiting for the two sides to start acting like adults and resolve their issues instead acting like spoiled brats and storming off cause they ain’t getting their own way. Maybe the owners should appreciate what they have and the only reason us fans pay those ridiculous prices to attend an NBA game. Its certainly not James Dolan, Mark Cuban or any of the other team owners. It’s the players, cause ever since we were kids, we’ve always wanted to do all the things they could do with the ball in their hands.  It’s watching Blake Griffin throw down one of his monster dunks. Kobe hitting the game winner or D. Rose putting his man on skates with his killer crossover. Those are the things that we get fired up for. Not all this drama with who’s getting too much money and how come I had to pay so and so after I signed him BS. All we’re asking for is a little peek, just a peek! We can work out all the other drama later.  David Stern if you’re listening; We want our NBA!

 

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With the recent suit of the NBPA by the NBA, the players are starting to make their move on the chess board.  LA Lakers small forward Ron Artest is about to sign a contract in the UK to play for  the Cheshire Jets  according to ESPN and his own twitter  feed (@ronartest)  tweeting last night “First I have to do my tv show first Then Finland for a week Then right to Uk But when lakers call You already know !!!” Oklahoma City Thunder stud Kevin Durant is in talks with Turkish club  Besiktas, the same club who has been pursuing Kobe Bryant and has already inked Deron Williams to a deal. Talk about taking a league by storm… Can you imagine suiting up and running onto the court to play against Besiktas only to realize that they feature two of the most prominent scorers and one of the top two point guards the NBA has to offer? Who’s going to flee next? Will it be Orlando’s very own Superman, Dwight Howard dawning the jersey of some team in China? Or even Miami’s Dwyane Wade who had previously said he was “open” to the idea of playing elsewhere if the NBA lockout continued into the season according to the Miami Herald.

The NBA is pushing hard to get back some of the money they claim to have been losing since the last CBA  demanding an $8 Billion give back and a 10 year pay freeze according to 76ers center Spencer Hawes who tweeted earlier in the week “nice waking up to see we were being sued by our employers today for failing to agree to an $8 Billion giveback and decade long pay freeze.” What union would agree to that? NBPA Executive Director Billy Hunter would be wise to advise the players to go ahead and sign overseas instead of bowing down to the big bad owners of the league. If the players continue to sign overseas, how many of us hoop heads will be up early in the morning to watch the players we love?

The NBA Commissioner David Stern and team owners should lock themselves in a room until they can make an effort to come to an agreement with the NBPA. The sooner, the better for everyone involved including the fans. If the NBA owners continue to act like spoiled brats, the game we love so much could be tarnished at it’s highest level. Where will this leave the fans at? Will you turn to high school or college hoops, or when the NBA decides to stop bickering, will we too give in and have to catch the NBA? Only time will tell.

I’m so tired of the lockout and it just continues to get worse. The two sides are $800 million a year apart and NBPA Executive Director Billy Hunter has said that if he ”had to bet on it” he would bet against an NBA season for 2011-2012 according to several news sources. To make matters worse the NBA filed a lawsuit against the NBPA on Tuesday in hopes of preventing them from decertifying as a union. This means that by law, the players would remain obligated to collectively bargain with the league. A smart move on the NBA’s part as this would allow the NBA to go against the NBPA instead of the NBA players individually. The lawsuit is the first move in a serious game of chess with both sides trying to put their opponent in check.

The question now becomes what will the players do to counteract this move. Will they all sign overseas in hopes that the NBA will see the error of their ways? Or will they give in and agree to a deal they will regret for years to come? The summer is coming to an end and players have been doing everything to keep themselves busy including trying to attend random afternoon barbeque’s as Kevin Love tweeted this weekend “It’s the weekend…who’s having a barbecue today? I’m showing up.”

The players seem to want a quick resolution to all this, but the owners appear to be trying to force the players hand on the lockout. The one thing that seems to be mind boggling to me is that the NBA, after claiming they have lost billions over the years, is currently losing money, their sponsors are losing money and the longer this continues the more money they will continue to lose. The NBA still has most of their fans right now but with the NFL  and college football seasons starting up soon the longer this lockout drags on the more likely it is they could lose their entire fan base. If the season is lost, it could take years for the NBA to get back to where it is and they will have no one to blame but themselves and the greed they have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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